[Peace-discuss] Spies of Mississippi: The True Story of the Spy Network that Tried to Destroy the Civil Rights Movement

Thu Mar 13 02:53:54 UTC 2014

Interesting that my mentioning of Mississippi's Sovereignty Commission went
directly into a discussion of the FBI. In fact, the MSC was very much like
Mississippi's own FBI.

What I should also mention is that the Mississippi Sovereignty Commission
became a very strong lobbying body in Washington D.C. (Imagine it -- the
State of Mississippi might have a lot of money), lobbying for segregation.

Also imagine the FBI lobbying. // Deep pockets. // Our taxes. // And what
issues would be lobbied for and against?

On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 8:07 PM, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I learned from Weiner's book on the FBI that in fact J. Edgar Hoover
> wanted the FBI to be the CIA--to spy foreignly as well as
> domestically--which it did prior to the establishment of the CIA, which
> Hoover opposed.
>
>
>   On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 8:01 PM, Carl G. Estabrook <
> galliher at illinois.edu> wrote:
>
> See Tim Weiner, "Enemies: A History of the FBI" (2012).
>
> A companion piece to his "Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA" (2008)
>
>
> On Mar 11, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Karen Medina <kmedina67 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, the FBI was, and still does, seem like two very different groups. One
> more CIA-like -- discrediting people, creating lies, torturing people,
> creating anger and hatred -- the other actually solving some crimes (that
> their colleagues didn't commit) -- like Blagojevich for instance.
>
> -karen
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:02 PM, David Johnson <
> davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>  *Here is an interesting example of the FBI undercover operations in the
> South during the 1960's ;*
>
> *" In one particularly controversial 1965 incident, white civil rights
> worker **Viola Liuzzo* <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viola_Liuzzo>* was
> murdered by **Ku Klux Klansmen*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan>*,
> who gave chase and fired shots into her car after noticing that her
> passenger was a young black man; one of the Klansmen was Gary Thomas Rowe,
> an acknowledged FBI informant.[53]
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO#cite_note-The_Informant-53>[54]
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO#cite_note-54> The FBI spread
> rumors that Liuzzo was a member of the **Communist Party*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party>*
> and had abandoned her children to have sexual relationships with **African
> Americans* <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans>* involved in
> the **Civil Rights Movement*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_Civil_Rights_Movement_(1955%E2%80%9368)>*.[55]
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO#cite_note-uua-55>[56]
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO#cite_note-urlRearview_Mirror-56>
> FBI records show that **J. Edgar Hoover*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Edgar_Hoover>*
> personally communicated these insinuations to President Johnson.[57]
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO#cite_note-plantingseeds-57>[58]
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO#cite_note-Stanton-58> FBI
> informant Rowe has also been implicated in some of the most violent crimes
> of the 1960s civil rights era, including attacks on the **Freedom Riders*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Riders>*
> and the 1963 Birmingham, Alabama **16th Street Baptist Church bombing*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16th_Street_Baptist_Church_bombing>*.[53]
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO#cite_note-The_Informant-53>
> According to **Noam Chomsky* <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky>*,
> in another instance in **San Diego*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego>*,
> the FBI financed, armed, and controlled an extreme right-wing group of
> former **Minutemen*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minutemen_(anti-Communist_organization)>*,
> transforming it into a group called the Secret Army Organization that
> targeted groups, activists, and leaders involved in the Anti-War Movement,
> using both intimidation and violent acts ".*
>
> *It is almost as if there were TWO FBI's with different policies and
> priorities, which of course could not be the case, especially with Hoover
> in charge.*
>
> *David Johnson*
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Karen Medina <kmedina67 at gmail.com>
> *To:* David Johnson <davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net>
> *Cc:* Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 10, 2014 6:08 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] Spies of Mississippi: The True Story of
> the Spy Network that Tried to Destroy the Civil Rights Movement
>
>  David Johnson wrote: > *Was this part of the FBI's cointelpro program ?*
>
> The Mississippi Sovereignty Commission started completely as a state of
> Mississippi entity. But it lasted over, three possibly four governor's
> terms. The FBI had nothing to do with it at first. The FBI entered the
> scene in 1964 when the 3 "Freedom Summer" campaign volunteers disappeared.
> The FBI was investigating the disappearance -- so they were working on the
> opposite side from the commission.
>
> Later, toward the end of the commission's long life, there were people who
> were paid by the commission who were also sharing information with the FBI
> -- the commission was paying police officers who served "the public", the
> Klan, and the commission. They shared reports.
>
> At least that is the way I understand it.
>
> -karen
>
>
>     I just enjoyed a book:
> "Spies of Mississippi: The True Story of the Spy Network that Tried to
> Destroy the Civil Rights Movement"
> by Rick Bowers
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> -- karen medina
> "The really great make you feel that you, too, can become great." - Mark
> Twain
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