[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Senate Bill 1761

[C. G. Estabrook]

 ya’aQov, that bile is bad for your liver. Remember Freud’s favorite joke: “Is life worth living? It depends on the liver."

Carol Ammons refused to vote against a shameful measure regarding Israeli apartheid. She would not have done so, had the subject been South African apartheid.



> On May 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, ya'aQov via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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> CGE, another of your conceited refusals to answer questions, to plug your mantra on any eMail or media wave you can.
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> You proudly represent only yourself, surrounded by look likes who echo your words. You presume to represent other people, Palestinians living in the State of Israel, while you have NOT attempted to communicate with those people, asking for their concerns and projects. As an American Uncle Carl, you want to invest/divest your own good upon them, never mind what they say, want, and do.  You have been reducing Palestinians and Israelis to a financial transaction.
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> Illinois legislator Carol Ammons spoke with us on April 30, manifesting  acute attention to our concerns, ongoing projects, hard working on representing C-U and Illinois. I commend Carol for her work and efforts.
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> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:59 PM, C. G. Estabrook <carl at newsfromneptune.com <mailto:carl at newsfromneptune.com>> wrote:
> > As an American, I am concerned with the policies of the US government, “the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today,” as M. L. King said.
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> > In the last 50 years, US presidents (very much including the incumbent) have killed, wounded and made homeless well over 20 million human beings, mostly civilians.
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> > US policies include support for the government of the settler-colonial state of Israel, because for most of that 50 years Israel has acted as a “stationary aircraft carrier” for the US in its military attempts to control Mideast energy resources, which "gives it indirect but politically critical leverage on the European and Asian economies that are also dependent on energy exports from the region” (Zbigniew Brzezinski).
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> > The US government therefore officially disapproves but actually acquiesces in Israel’s policies in its (illegally) Occupied Territories, which "are far worse than [South Africa’s] apartheid” (N. Chomsky). Those policies should be opposed with effective tactics, and ended.
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> > —CGE
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> >> On May 20, 2015, at 9:17 PM, ya'aQov <yaaqovz at gmail.com <mailto:yaaqovz at gmail.com>> wrote:
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> >> It is AWARE on the Air, Niloofar, et al. who need to be ashamed for
> >> NOT telling us how many Palestinians and Israel in the State of Israel
> >> will loose their jobs because of BDS's tactic.
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> >> Palestinians and Israelis did not ask you to speak on their behalf,
> >> nor do you know what and how they want to act democratically about
> >> these matters in their country. You are using slogans about South
> >> Africa without pointing how are they still relevant (??) You  consider
> >> your half baked reports effective. Yes, Illinois legislators didn't
> >> fall for that.
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> >> Hot air is cheap CGE, You don't have to worry about Your pension.
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> >> Practically, you speak for yourself, using their name as a pretext for
> >> your own agenda of minus-ing (doing away with) the State of Israel.
> >> Israel manifests for you an academic chart that can be played with,
> >> redrawn, manipulated with your tax dollars. You manifest the view of a
> >> colonialist-imperialist who can manipulate charts with money, not by
> >> communicating with the people living there.
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> >> As long as you maintain your conceited refusal to contact and
> >> communicate with Israelis and Palestinians, the victims of apartheid,
> >> those who actively and democratically attempt to protest and resist
> >> apartheid and military occupation, your speak only on  behalf of AWARE
> >> on Hot Air, of no substance.
> >
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