[Peace-discuss] [Peace] MoveOn Members On Bernie Sanders: 'He'll Say No to Permanent War'

[Carl G. Estabrook]

What’s odd is KVH’s perception of “voters' grow[ing] more concerned about national security and terrorism” as if that’s a free variable.

She knows but doesn’t admit that it’s the result of (as I say) "the administration’s scare-mongering and attempts to mask its killing."  

(I appreciate the unwonted respect, Bob. Or were you being ironic?)



> On Jan 13, 2016, at 10:16 PM, Robert Naiman <naiman at justforeignpolicy.org> wrote:
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> What's odd about it, O wise one?
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> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
> That’s an odd way to say that Clinton means to continue Obama’s criminal war-making - as Obama continued Bush’s.
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> Her problem is that Americans are not enthusiastic for more war, in spite of the administration’s scare-mongering and attempts to mask its killing.  
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>> On Jan 13, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Robert Naiman via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
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>> As Katrina vanden Heuvel has written <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.washingtonpost.com_opinions_a-2Dvigorous-2Dforeign-2Dpolicy-2Ddebate-2Dbetween-2Dclinton-2Dand-2Dsanders_2015_12_22_05d8eb92-2Da819-2D11e5-2Dbff5-2D905b92f5f94b-5Fstory.html&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=IgZKbSLMr9ETXtUaxubXzRdTgImHRnySq-nE67XgoHQ&s=AAN4VL6g1u82heTIy2WyixVtngyUrkz3G4RrKTz3Mnc&e=>, "The conventional wisdom is that [Hillary] Clinton benefits as voters grow more concerned about national security and terrorism. She is the most experienced of all the candidates." But, vanden Heuvel argued, "as we have seen on domestic issues, experience is a mixed blessing when fundamental judgments have been wrong and counterproductive."
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>> It would appear that most members of MoveOn agree with vanden Heuvel on this point.
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>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/moveon-members-on-bernie_b_8974246.html <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.huffingtonpost.com_robert-2Dnaiman_moveon-2Dmembers-2Don-2Dbernie-5Fb-5F8974246.html&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=IgZKbSLMr9ETXtUaxubXzRdTgImHRnySq-nE67XgoHQ&s=WiTgPkLEdUd9qHSTrUKub2yt4-clTyU5XoELRtBEjSE&e=>
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