[Peace-discuss] Impeachment

Tue Jan 17 04:27:35 UTC 2017

How do we do that?

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu>
wrote:

> With all due respect Carl, the moment Obama leaves office on Friday at
> Noon we need to move on to having Obama et al. indicted for war crimes,
> crimes against humanity, murder  and numerous  other atrocities. Put them
> all  in jail where they  belong! Ditto for Bush Jr et al. There is no
> Statute of Limitations for these crimes and every court in the world has
> universal jurisdiction to try them.
> Fab
> Ed Norton Professor of Law
> Carl Schmitt College of Law:
> "Mein Fuhrer I can walk!"
>
> Francis A. Boyle
> Law Building
> 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.
> Champaign IL 61820 USA
> 217-333-7954 (phone)
> 217-244-1478 (fax)
> (personal comments only)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at illinois.edu]
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 9:36 PM
> To: Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu>
> Cc: Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com>; Jay Becker <futureup2us at gmail.com>;
> peace-discuss at anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK <carl at newsfromneptune.com>;
> a-fields at uiuc.edu; Hoffman, Valerie J <vhoffman at illinois.edu>; Miller,
> Joseph Thomas <jtmiller at illinois.edu>; Szoke, Ron <r-szoke at illinois.edu>;
> sherwoodross10 at gmail.com; Arlene Hickory <a23h23 at yahoo.com>; David
> Swanson <davidcnswanson at gmail.com>; peace-discuss-request at lists.
> chambana.net; Dave Trippel <davetrippel at ameritech.net>; abass10 at gmail.com;
> mickalideh at gmail.com; Lina Thorne <lina at worldcantwait.net>;
> chicago at worldcantwait.net; Mildred O'brien <moboct1 at aim.com>; David
> Johnson <davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net>; Joe Lauria <joelauria at gmail.com>;
> David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Impeachment
>
> Certainly presidents can be impeached after leaving office - conviction
> making appointment to the Supreme Court, say, impossible - and Obama should
> be impeached for unconstitutional use of the military. There should be a
> movement to prevent his legal apotheosis.
>
> —CGE
>
>
> > From: "Boyle, Francis A" <fboyle at illinois.edu>
> > To: Kary Love <kary_love at yahoo.com>; Terry Lodge <tjlodge50 at yahoo.com>;
> Brad Springer <bspringer at scholtenfant.com>; Scot Reynolds <
> sareynolds1960 at yahoo.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 9:31 AM
> > Subject: RE: Power To Declare War
> >
> >
> >
> > We need one Member of the House to introduce a Bill of Impeachment
> against Obama. Happy to serve as Counsel and Draft it if  you can get me
> one. Fab.
> >
> >
> >
> > Francis A. Boyle
> >
> > Law Building
> >
> > 504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.
> >
> > Champaign, IL 61820 USA
> >
> > 217-333-7954 (phone)
> >
> > 217-244-1478 (fax)
> >
> > (personal comments only)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Kary Love [mailto:kary_love at yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:05 AM
> > To: Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu>; Terry Lodge <
> tjlodge50 at yahoo.com>; Brad Springer <bspringer at scholtenfant.com>; Scot
> Reynolds <sareynolds1960 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Power To Declare War
> >
> >
> >
> > In order to be a republic, rather than a monarchy, the power to declare
> war, the most terrible power of government, must belong to the
> representatives of the people--not to a single individual.  In my view,
> this core power, given to the Congress by the Constitution, is not
> delegable by the Congress to the President without destroying separation of
> powers in its most critical aspect.  The abuse of the power to declare war
> by tyrants and kings throughout history, including the use of war to create
> fear among the people and to distract them from domestic issues, was one
> reason the Constitution reposed this power exclusively in the Congress.
> Allowing its delegation to the executive branch destroys the participation
> of the people through their representatives in the decision to engage in
> this most fearsome of governmental acts.
> >
> >
> >
> > The acquiesce by Congress, again, is disturbing.  The statements by
> "leaders" in Congress that the power has been fully delegated to the
> executive and no further action is necessary or proper is arguably an
> impeachable offense, in my view.  Certainly, it is evidence that those
> holding that view have abandoned their responsibility to act in accord with
> their oath to uphold the Constitution and should be considered by voters
> when deciding to return such persons to Congress--and in considering
> candidates for the executive.  The compact between the people and the
> national government is the Constitution.  When the government actions
> destroy the core limits imposed, contrary to the representations made to
> the ratifying conventions of the people, arguably the contract is
> dissolved.  KL
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From "The Hill:"
> >
> >
> >
> > Obama Objections Stop War Authorization Vote
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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