[Peace-discuss] NFN yesterday

David Green davidgreen50 at gmail.com
Sun Jan 27 20:45:30 UTC 2019


The Bernie/DSA "movement" will only be genuinely successful if its
adherents are relentlessly truthful about the nature of USFP. Then they can
figure out who their "friends" and "enemies" are. Certainly Ayanna Pressley
(D-MA) will be counted as one of the latter. Her website statement, for
example, on Israel/Palestine is:

"Historically, the United States has played a critical role in advancing
engagement between Israeli and Palestinian leadership, and working to ease
tensions in the region. It remains vital for the United States, along with
the broader international community, to continue to bring both parties to
the negotiating table. We must avoid efforts to unilaterally blame and deny
legitimacy to either side, and should instead work towards building a just
solution that recognizes the trauma suffered by both populations. We should
hold both Israelis and Palestinians accountable when they take actions in
bad faith that cause each other harm, and should encourage actions that
build trust and demonstrate a real willingness to make peace. I do not
support BDS as a means to achieve a two-state solution because I believe it
does not acknowledge the efforts of those on the ground who are deeply
committed to bringing peaceful coexistence to the region, and pushes
Israelis and Palestinians farther away from the meaningful engagement and
dialogue needed to empathize with each other's struggle and acknowledge
each other's humanity. At the same time, I believe that others should be
free to advocate it and that their 1st amendment rights should be
respected."

Honestly I don't care if she opposes BDS; I care that she doesn't
understand anything about the history, and is disinterested in a genuine
solution.

On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 3:40 PM Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> Carl and David
>
>
> Excellent program.
>
> My thoughts,
>
> I am skeptical of these women in Congress, whether AOC, Tulsi, or anyone
> else because they offer “hope” just as Bernie did, hope that the Democrats
> will save us.  Having Tulsi and Bernie run in 2020, even if elected will be
> mere puppets as all other Presidents before them, and they know it. In the
> meantime DNC strategy, now I speculate, is to suck off the young Bernie
> folks, pseudo socialists, and those who are afraid to support a third Party
> because you know the usual, “Trump is so awful,” and he is, but this is why
> we are just running in circles, with inequality growing, and more nations
> in our crosshairs for destruction.
>
> AOC may say some of the right things, but even if she is genuine, I see
> someone either being prepared for the future, a woman of color, or shut
> down when she takes up FP. In the meantime she is a diversion from FP,
> focusing on domestic issues as if one person is going to change anything.
>
> I’m inundated with postings of both AOC and Tulsi, they get a lot of
> coverage from mainstream media, unlike Jill Stein, Ajamu Baraka, and anyone
> else who speaks out against USFP. In fact, most of the websites providing
> information related to foreign policy are being censored or closed down, so
> one must question Tulsi, and I have yet to hear her go into any indepth
> analysis related to our wars, she supposedly opposes. AOC to my knowledge
> has yet to comment on FP.
>
> We have a “for profit system” of capitalism which isn’t going to get
> better, it will likely get worse.
> People need to remember, anyone can say anything, until they’re elected,
> and even then they can say anything and they do, as they have, it means
> little.
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