[Peace-discuss] "The Growing Antisemitism Scam"

[David Green]

As long as the interests of elites in both countries coincide, then many
can safely practice their loyalty to Israel. When they don't, very few will
side with Israel. Thus we sell weapons to Saudi Arabia; and Jonathan
Pollard remained in prison for quite some time.

On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:29 AM Morton K. Brussel <mkb3 at icloud.com> wrote:

> In my view, this begs the question: Are there not many Zionist Americans
> who have a dual loyalty to Israeli interests over and above American
> interests. I say yes.
>
> The arguments here seem irrelevent to this, Chomsky or Finkelstein and
> "Congressional support and general support among the political class"
> notwithstanding.
>
> On Mar 11, 2019, at 10:47 AM, David Green <davidgreen50 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> As Chomsky has pointed out on numerous occasions, the American liberal
> intellectual class fell in love with Israel in 1967, when Israel clearly
> promoted American hegemony in the Middle East by smashing Arab nationalism.
> Until then, the "dual loyalty" charge could be yielded against them; after
> 1967, not so much. There are obviously those who have decided to emigrate,
> but that is neither here nor there regarding Congressional support and
> general support among the political class. Far from dual loyalty, loyalty
> to the U.S. and Israel are seen as one. As Chomsky and Finkelstein have
> also stated, when Israel is no longer central to American hegemony, its
> support will prove not to be rooted in a sincere support for Jewish
> nationalism; even if they love to sing Hatikvah.
>
> A good example of "dual loyalty" would be Rahm Emanuel, who twice
> volunteered to serve in the IDF. But of course he is loyal to the
> capitalist class over all. And the U.S. is where the global capitalist
> class has its headquarters.
>
> DG
>
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:51 PM Morton K. Brussel <mkb3 at icloud.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I wrote this some time ago, but evidently didn’t send it off…
>>
>> My reading of those in the Jewish community who are ardent Zionists
>> indeed have a dual allegiance irrespective of American interests. We have a
>> few here at CLV.  David, what are your impressions with members of the
>> Temple community? How about those who have emigrated to Israel from the
>> U.S.?
>>
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 10:41 PM, David Green via Peace-discuss <
>> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>>
>> Only so long as Israel remains useful to American control of the region,
>> which it most certainly will in the foreseeable future.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 4:47 PM Brussel, Morton K <brussel at illinois.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 12:08 PM, David Green <davidgreen50 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Accusations of anti-semitism are certainly politically motivated and
>>> despicable; nevertheless those who make them cannot credibly accused of
>>> "dual loyalty." They have simply adopted these tactics in relation to their
>>> support for American Empire.
>>>
>>>
>>> ???—only if the American Empire backs Israel?
>>>
>>>
>>> DG
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:39 PM Brussel, Morton K via Peace-discuss <
>>> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> By Philip Giraldi:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51165.htm
>>>>
>>>> —mkb
>>>>
>>>
>
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