[OccupyCU] [Peace-discuss] They let us choose between a child-killer and a job-killer

[Rachel Storm]

I'll be there tonight.

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Stuart Levy <stuartnlevy at gmail.com> wrote:

>  This is depressing.   I'm sorry, Rachel!   I've turned off your mail from
> the occupyCU list, though you can still post to it.
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> Maybe we can talk about communications at tonight's meeting.
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> On 10/29/12 5:05 PM, Rachel Storm wrote:
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> *I want off of this list*. If there is someone else organizing for
> Occupy, I'd like to be a part of it. But these emails are atrocious and
> they are the only ones coming from the list these days. I don't think I can
> justify any longer staying on a list that is dominated by trolling without
> anyone stepping in or moderating--"the world we want is the world we need."
> I don't want to be a part of such a dis-organized space and have remained
> here only because I want news about Occupy, dialogue/imagination, and a way
> to communicate with others who want to organize against capitalism and f'ed
> up dynamics of power (racism, sexism, homophobia, classism, ableism, etc.)
> Unfortunately, at this point, this list doesn't seem like a radical space
> at all.
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>  * Can someone remove me?*
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>  On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:52 PM, C. G. Estabrook <
> carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
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>> You'd have to have some sort of excuse for voting for a child killer. ("I
>> had to kill this kid, or someone would have done something bad to me...")
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>> On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Ricky Baldwin <rbaldwin at seiu73.org> wrote:
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>> > I agree with this much:
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>> > "In Illinois, the Green party's candidate, Jill Stein, is on the
>> ballot, and one could write-in Rocky Anderson (Justice party), who's been
>> impressive in the third-party debates.
>> >
>> > The third-party vote in Illinois will probably make more of an
>> impression than abstention."
>> >
>> > But I think it's worth specifically pointing out that voting
>> strategically or pragmatically (some might say "intelligently") does not
>> somehow "corrupt" a person.  People may vote in relative ignorance or fear,
>> and either of those things could have a negative impact on his or her
>> mental health and/or effectiveness as a human being ad member of society,
>> but of course neither one of those things is anything new in human history.
>>  I also think the effect is pretty minor if we're talking about voting, as
>> opposed to the things people may do out of fear and/or ignorance in many
>> parts of the world and in history in order to survive, to get a job, to
>> eat, to protect their families and communities, etc.
>> >
>> > --- In case anyone doesn't mind my 2c... But I suppose the short-term
>> effect is the same as the above, at least in the case of that presidential
>> elections, which is the vote that has the least impact.
>> >
>> > Ricky
>> > ________________________________________
>> > From: occupycu-bounces at lists.chambana.net [
>> occupycu-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of C. G. Estabrook [
>> cge at shout.net]
>> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 10:18 AM
>> > To: peace-discuss at anti-war.net
>> > Cc: sf-core; occupycu
>> > Subject: [OccupyCU] They let us choose between a child-killer and a
>> job-killer
>> >
>> > ...and we're corrupted by voting for either.
>> >
>> > In Illinois, the Green party's candidate, Jill Stein, is on the ballot,
>> and one could write-in Rocky Anderson (Justice party), who's been
>> impressive in the third-party debates.
>> >
>> > The third-party vote in Illinois will probably make more of an
>> impression than abstention.
>> >
>> >
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