[Peace-discuss] who wants a US Boat to Gaza t-shirt?

["E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森"]

Chomsky makes some excellent points about how the false prophets (liars)
are treated well while the dissidents telling the truth are killed 
imprisoned
and worse.  Modernization and enlightenment haven't changed the navi 
blues one bit.

An alternative derivation of navi is that it comes from a root naba 
<05042> that means to "bubble up (like a fountain, a spring of water)".  
The prophet speaks what is revealed to him as he is moved by the spirit 
of God.

The intellectual dissident can discover the truth by 'brute force' 
deriving it from first principles but the poor uneducated son of the fig 
plucker can drink from the same spiritual river of living water as Enoch 
and the sons of the prophets.




On 07/06/11 11:32, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
> See Chomsky on the role of the prophet - like Isaiah - then and now:
>
> "The word 'prophet' is a very bad translation of an obscure Hebrew 
> word, navi. Nobody knows what it means. But today they'd be called 
> dissident intellectuals. They were giving geopolitical analysis, 
> arguing that the acts of the rulers were going to destroy society. And 
> they condemned the acts of evil kings. They called for justice and 
> mercy to orphans and widows and so on.
>
> "I don't want to say it was all beautiful. Dissident intellectuals 
> aren't all beautiful. You read Sakharov, who is sometimes appalling. 
> Or Solzhenitsyn. And the nivi'im were treated the way dissident 
> intellectuals always are. They weren't praised. They weren't honored. 
> They were imprisoned like Jeremiah. They were driven into the desert. 
> They were hated. Now at the time, there were intellectuals, 
> 'prophets,' who were very well treated. They were the flatterers of 
> the court. Centuries later, they were called 'false prophets.'
>
> "People who criticize power in the Jewish community are regarded the 
> way Ahab treated Elijah: You're a traitor. You've got to serve power. 
> You can't argue that the policies that Israel is following are going 
> to lead to its destruction, which I thought then and still do...
>
> "I particularly admired [Amos'] comments that he's not an intellectual 
> ...' I'm not a prophet, I'm not the son of a prophet, I'm a simple 
> shepherd.' So he translated 'prophet' correctly. He's saying, 'I'm not 
> an intellectual.' He was a simple farmer and he wanted just to tell 
> the truth. I admire that."
>
>
>
> On 7/5/11 8:50 PM, "E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森" wrote:
>> "We will not be silent."
>>
>> It is a very interesting and ironic
>> if not fortunate choice of words.
>>
>> "For Zion's sake I will not keep silent,
>> for Jerusalem's sake I will not be still,
>> till her vindication shines forth like the dawning,
>> and her victory like the flame of the Lord."
>> - Isaiah 62.1 (Talbot's rendering)
>>
>>
>> On 07/06/11 7:44, Robert Naiman wrote:
>>> I now have a bag of shirts. Some US boat to Gaza, some "We will not be
>>> silent," in English, Arabic, and Hebrew.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 2:05 AM, Karen Medina<kmedina67 at gmail.com>  
>>> wrote:
>>>> Yes, bring tee-shirts.
>>>> AWARE can sell some, though tee-shirts don't sell very well from 
>>>> our table.
>>>> It is more likely that members of AWARE would want to buy one.
>>>>
>>>> I will take one.
>>>>
>>>> ISO and SJP members might also.
>>>>
>>>> -karen medina
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Robert Naiman
>>>> <naiman at justforeignpolicy.org>  wrote:
>>>>> I have the opportunity to bring a bunch of US Boat to Gaza 
>>>>> t-shirts to
>>>>> Urbana. How many should I try to bring? The idea would be to sell 
>>>>> them
>>>>> on a sliding scale, $10-$20, as a fundraiser for the US boat 
>>>>> campaign.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Robert Naiman
>>>>> Policy Director
>>>>> Just Foreign Policy
>>>>> www.justforeignpolicy.org
>>>>> naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> -- karen medina
>>>> "The really great make you feel that you, too, can become great." - 
>>>> Mark Twain
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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