[Peace-discuss] Johnson opposes military action in Libya

C. G. Estabrook galliher at illinois.edu
Fri Mar 25 16:09:33 CDT 2011


True enough.  In fact Harry Truman in Korea is the best model for what BHO has 
done - before of course the War Powers Act, but equally illegal.

On 3/25/11 3:32 PM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> No argument from /me/ here, just quoting the pundits' latest.
> And as for an actual Declaration of War, somebody pointed out that that hasn't 
> happened since WW II...
>  --Jenifer
>
> --- On *Fri, 3/25/11, Robert Naiman /<naiman at justforeignpolicy.org>/* wrote:
>
>     A lot of folks seem to be under the mistaken impression - fostered in part
>     by the Administration - that the War Powers Resolution - which despite the
>     name "resolution," is a law - only contains reporting requirements.
>
>     This is, of course, false...
>
>     § 1541. Purpose and policy
>     [...]
>     (c) Presidential executive power as Commander-in-Chief; limitation
>     The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to
>     introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into
>     situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly
>     indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to
>
>     (1) a declaration of war,
>
>     (2) specific statutory authorization, or
>
>     (3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its
>     territories or possessions, or its armed forces.
>     [...]
>
>     http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/50/usc_sec_50_00001541----000-.html
>
>     There was no declaration of war. There was no specific statutory
>     authorization. There was no attack on the United States or its armed
>     forces. Therefore, the President violated the War Powers Resolution.
>
>     On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com
>     </mc/compose?to=jencart13 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>         The current language used [to justify not consulting Congress] focuses
>         on short duration and skips the eminent threat to the homeland stuff.
>         Let's see if that's gonna play...
>          --Jenifer
>
>         --- On *Tue, 3/22/11, Robert Naiman /<naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
>         </mc/compose?to=naiman at justforeignpolicy.org>>/* wrote:
>
>             Kucinich has pledged to introduce an amendment to any funding vehicle
>             that would defund military operations in Libya - i.e., pretty similar
>             to what Tim Johnson is proposing. He is circulating a letter to that
>             effect; the last time I looked, Paul, Jones, and Stark had signed it.
>
>             On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Karen Medina <*MailScanner has
>             detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be*
>             kmedina67 at gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=kmedina67@gmail.com>> wrote:
>             > Good going, Tim Johnson.
>             > I am curious to see what Kucinich does.
>             > -karen medina
>             >
>             > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Rohn Koester <*MailScanner has
>             detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be*
>             rohnkoester at hotmail.com
>             <http://mc/compose?to=rohnkoester@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>             >> Johnson opposes military action in Libya
>             >>
>             >> Tue, 03/22/2011 - 11:30am | Tom Kacich
>             >>
>             >> U.S. Rep. Tim Johnson, R-Urbana, who already opposes U.S.
>             involvement in
>             >> wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, today said he would introduce
>             legislation to
>             >> de-fund military action in Libya.
>             >>
>             >> The six-term Republican said he would work with Rep. Justin
>             Amash, R-Mich.,
>             >> a freshman congressman, to draft legislation declaring the action
>             >> unconstitutional.
>             >>
>             >> “Constitutionally, it is indisputable that Congress must be
>             consulted prior
>             >> to an act of war unless there is an imminent threat against
>             this country.
>             >> The president has not done so,” Johnson said. “In fact, this is
>             the same man
>             >> who questioned President Bush’s constitutional authority to
>             commit troops to
>             >> war.”
>             >>
>             >>
>             http://www.news-gazette.com/news/politics-and-government/2011-03-22/johnson-opposes-military-action-libya.html
>             >>
>             >>
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