[Peace-discuss] Why Israel killed 2,000 (with US permission)

Fri Aug 8 09:30:57 EDT 2014

Roger

Democracy Now is the only tv news station that is a news station, they are the only one that doesn't disseminate US corporate propaganda, and they employ real investigative journalists. 

Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:11:00 -0500
To: rwhelbig at gmail.com
CC: peace-discuss at anti-war.net
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Why Israel killed 2,000 (with US permission)
From: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net

There's some indication that 'Iron Dome' may be a flying Potemkin village - profitable for the usual 'defense contractors' and useful for propagandists in the Israeli & US governments but neither necessary nor effective against the largely home-made rockets from Gaza.
See now Mark Perry, "Gaza's Bottle Rockets: Why Hamas' Arsenal Wasn't Worth a War," in the current  edition of the conservative journal Foreign Affairs, Published by the Council on Foreign Relations, August 3, 2014: http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/141698/mark-perry/gazas-bottle-rockets

On Aug 8, 2014, at 6:59 AM, Roger Helbig <rwhelbig at gmail.com> wrote:Democracy Now forgot about Democracy long ago - they parrot Hamas
propaganda just like you do!  When you meet your maker, then you will
have to attone for your sins since you fancy yourself some sort of
expert on religion - unguided rockets are a terrorist weapon - they
are only just aimed in the general direction of the people you want to
kill and anything that gets hit gets killed - Iron Dome has
effectively shielded them but it can not do so with 100% certainty
forever - the Israelis know that and so does any other fool who knows
what rockets do.  Suggest you learn.,  Amy Goodman and her pal
Gonzalez really pretend to be journalists since they never actually
dig out facts that might disagree with their preformed opinions.

Roger

On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 6:20 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss
<peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
http://www.democracynow.org/2014/8/7/a_hideous_atrocity_noam_chomsky_on

As high Israeli officials concede, Hamas had observed the previous ceasefire
for 19 months. The previous episode of "mowing the lawn" was in November
2012. There was a ceasefire. The ceasefire terms were that Hamas would not
fire rockets--what they call rockets--and Israel would move to end the
blockade and stop attacking what they call militants in Gaza. Hamas lived up
to it. Israel concedes that.

In April of this year, an event took place which horrified the Israeli
government: A unity agreement was formed between Gaza and the West Bank,
between Hamas and Fatah. Israel has been desperately trying to prevent that
for a long time. There's a background we could talk about, but it's
important. Anyhow, the unity agreement came. Israel was furious. They got
even more upset when the U.S. more or less endorsed it, which is a big blow
to them. They launched a rampage in the West Bank.

What was used as a pretext was the brutal murder of three settler teenagers.
There was a pretense that they were alive, though they knew they were dead.
That allowed a huge--and, of course, they blamed it right away on Hamas. They
have yet to produce a particle of evidence, and in fact their own highest
leading authorities pointed out right away that the killers were probably
from a kind of a rogue clan in Hebron, the Qawasmeh clan, which turns out
apparently to be true. They've been a thorn in the sides of Hamas for years.
They don't follow their orders.

But anyway, that gave the opportunity for a rampage in the West Bank,
arresting hundreds of people, re-arresting many who had been released,
mostly targeted on Hamas. Killings increased. Finally, there was a Hamas
response: the so-called rocket attacks. And that gave the opportunity for
"mowing the lawn" again.

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