[Peace-discuss] Korea & liberal War Party

[David Green]

I would add that, yes, Dowd steps back and is critical of Democrats, and is
astute about their "dilemma" in relation to Trump's diplomacy. But of
course this process has been driven from Korea itself, and it seems
cynical, not just skeptical, not to emphasize that. But of course Kristoff
is worse, in terms of his own human rights hypocrisy.

On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 12:00 PM, David Green <davidgreen50 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Here we have one of the most positive things in years, and Dowd is more
> concerned about being snarky then about objectively analyzing what Trump
> may have had or not had to do with it, and how she herself might understand
> the situation in a way that would, in fair and realistic as well as hopeful
> terms, help to move the process forward. The liberal establishment does NOT
> want Trump to be able to take credit for any of this, fairly or unfairly,
> for reasons that have to do with the general geopolitics of the ruling
> class, and the specific ambitions of the Democratic Party.
>
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 11:20 AM, Stuart Levy <stuartnlevy at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I haven't read the Kristoff piece yet, but how are you reading Dowd as
>> cynically opposing peace between the Koreas?    Look, she says:
>>
>> But for the moment, President Trump’s peculiar form of diplomacy — a
>> combination of belligerence, bluster, name-calling and ignorance of history
>> — has somehow produced a possible breakthrough in North Korea that eluded
>> his predecessors.
>>
>> She's pointing out that Trump is, despite frantic opposition, actually
>> getting this right - she seems be not at all ironic in saying that if
>> successful, Trump unlike Kissinger would actually deserve a Nobel Peace
>> Prize - and also pointing out that the Dems are hanging themselves if they
>> think that all they need to be is anti-Trump.   This sounds pretty good to
>> me.   What am I missing?
>>
>>
>> On 04/29/2018 10:05 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss wrote:
>>
>> The viciousness and cynicism of War Party liberals is on full display
>> (Kristoff, Dowd) on the NYT op-ed page. God forbid peace should break out
>> on Trump's watch.
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/28/opinion/sunday/trump-our-
>> cartoon-nobel-laureate.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&
>> clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-
>> region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/opinion/sunday/north-kore
>> a-south-kim-jong-un.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickS
>> ource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&
>> region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region
>>
>>
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